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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://rreynoso.com/blog/rants/obama-president-of-the-harvard-law-review/comment-page-1/#comment-65297</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama has written two books about himself which were bestsellers.  Has anyone ever read a scholarly piece by this most brilliant of legal minds?  Where might one find his scholarly writings?  And if they can&#039;t be found, why might that be?  Just asking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama has written two books about himself which were bestsellers.  Has anyone ever read a scholarly piece by this most brilliant of legal minds?  Where might one find his scholarly writings?  And if they can&#8217;t be found, why might that be?  Just asking.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard M. Block</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard M. Block</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 16:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what is written above, it would appear that the person who is elected president of the Harvard Law Review would have to be well known by several thousand students and faculty members who attended or taught his classes and who read his published works in law school.  And yet I have only found one person who claims to have known Barack Obama at Harvard Law School.  Why haven&#039;t hundreds or thousands of former classmates or professors of Obama ever been identified and interviewed about what Obama was like as a student at Harvard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what is written above, it would appear that the person who is elected president of the Harvard Law Review would have to be well known by several thousand students and faculty members who attended or taught his classes and who read his published works in law school.  And yet I have only found one person who claims to have known Barack Obama at Harvard Law School.  Why haven&#8217;t hundreds or thousands of former classmates or professors of Obama ever been identified and interviewed about what Obama was like as a student at Harvard?</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 16:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>20-30 people per year graduate magna cum laude  from Harvard Law School (about 5% of the class), and often there&#039;s a summa or two as well.  There&#039;s only one president of the Harvard Law Review every year.  It&#039;s a far more impressive credential than &quot;merely&quot; graduating magna cum laude.

The Harvard Law Review is, without question, the most important scholarly journal in American law -- and in part because it has always been the best run.  (I say this as a former top-of-the-masthead officer at a rival publication.)  When it wants to publish an article, it gets that article.  People have tried to establish peer-reviewed law journals for decades, and none remotely approaches the prestige of the Harvard Law Review.

I have known and worked with a bunch of former Harvard Law Review presidents, and not one of them (a) failed to impress me as being really, really smart, at least, or (b) was remotely the type of person who might win a popularity contest.  More often than not, Harvard Law Review presidents were  jerks, and the few non-jerks were even more intellectually impressive.  I wish I could remember exactly what the HLR presidential selection process entailed, but I don&#039;t.  I only know that once upon a time I did know it, and back then I was impressed at how well it had been designed to avoid picking anyone mediocre.  Harvard presidents tended to be the most intellectually commanding person in their years, excluding the complete space cadets.  The Yale Law Journal, at least in my day, had a completely different tradition.  The Yale editor-in-chief was never the most respected person on the editorial board, and the position usually went to a nice person who would handle administrative stuff and leave the scholars alone. 

Being president of the Harvard Law Review was a full-time job, and then some.  As the #2 person on my lesser law review, and someone who had rarely if ever missed a class voluntarily in my life, I was able to make it to about 70% of my class sessions during my tenure in office, and my study time was limited to 5-6 hours per class.  I  graduated in the top 10% of my class, but there was no way I could have kept my grades up to the Harvard magna standard.  And, unlike Harvard, we did NOT manage to publish all our issues on time.

Leading a bunch of top students at an elite law school is pretty much a cat-herding sort of thing.  Every one of your &quot;subordinates&quot; thinks he or she is God&#039;s gift to humanity, and has proven skill in manipulating systems to come out on top.  What&#039;s more, it&#039;s a rare Harvard Law Review board that does not contain dozens of people who make substantial contributions to the legal world in the decades after they graduate.  These are people whose high opinion of themselves is objectively justified, uniquely so.  The Harvard Law Review Board in my cohort included ten future Supreme Court clerks, several future federal judges, a future Fortune 500 CEO, a JD/PhD hired onto the Harvard faculty before graduation, a future Deputy Attorney General of the United States, a couple of future law school deans and maybe university presidents, the future COO of a major real estate empire, the future managing partner of one of the country&#039;s largest and most successful firms . . . and none of them was the president (except that the president was one of the Supreme Court clerks).

There are very few credentials that say as much about a young person&#039;s intellectual ability as being chosen president of the Harvard Law Review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>20-30 people per year graduate magna cum laude  from Harvard Law School (about 5% of the class), and often there&#8217;s a summa or two as well.  There&#8217;s only one president of the Harvard Law Review every year.  It&#8217;s a far more impressive credential than &#8220;merely&#8221; graduating magna cum laude.</p>
<p>The Harvard Law Review is, without question, the most important scholarly journal in American law &#8212; and in part because it has always been the best run.  (I say this as a former top-of-the-masthead officer at a rival publication.)  When it wants to publish an article, it gets that article.  People have tried to establish peer-reviewed law journals for decades, and none remotely approaches the prestige of the Harvard Law Review.</p>
<p>I have known and worked with a bunch of former Harvard Law Review presidents, and not one of them (a) failed to impress me as being really, really smart, at least, or (b) was remotely the type of person who might win a popularity contest.  More often than not, Harvard Law Review presidents were  jerks, and the few non-jerks were even more intellectually impressive.  I wish I could remember exactly what the HLR presidential selection process entailed, but I don&#8217;t.  I only know that once upon a time I did know it, and back then I was impressed at how well it had been designed to avoid picking anyone mediocre.  Harvard presidents tended to be the most intellectually commanding person in their years, excluding the complete space cadets.  The Yale Law Journal, at least in my day, had a completely different tradition.  The Yale editor-in-chief was never the most respected person on the editorial board, and the position usually went to a nice person who would handle administrative stuff and leave the scholars alone. </p>
<p>Being president of the Harvard Law Review was a full-time job, and then some.  As the #2 person on my lesser law review, and someone who had rarely if ever missed a class voluntarily in my life, I was able to make it to about 70% of my class sessions during my tenure in office, and my study time was limited to 5-6 hours per class.  I  graduated in the top 10% of my class, but there was no way I could have kept my grades up to the Harvard magna standard.  And, unlike Harvard, we did NOT manage to publish all our issues on time.</p>
<p>Leading a bunch of top students at an elite law school is pretty much a cat-herding sort of thing.  Every one of your &#8220;subordinates&#8221; thinks he or she is God&#8217;s gift to humanity, and has proven skill in manipulating systems to come out on top.  What&#8217;s more, it&#8217;s a rare Harvard Law Review board that does not contain dozens of people who make substantial contributions to the legal world in the decades after they graduate.  These are people whose high opinion of themselves is objectively justified, uniquely so.  The Harvard Law Review Board in my cohort included ten future Supreme Court clerks, several future federal judges, a future Fortune 500 CEO, a JD/PhD hired onto the Harvard faculty before graduation, a future Deputy Attorney General of the United States, a couple of future law school deans and maybe university presidents, the future COO of a major real estate empire, the future managing partner of one of the country&#8217;s largest and most successful firms . . . and none of them was the president (except that the president was one of the Supreme Court clerks).</p>
<p>There are very few credentials that say as much about a young person&#8217;s intellectual ability as being chosen president of the Harvard Law Review.</p>
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		<title>By: Rey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most prestigious in the planet? Maybe one of the legal journals on the planet but even then it&#039;s not going to be better at English law than England. It&#039;s one of the top legal reviews in the United States and is right up there with Yale.

And even then, once you leave the US and head to Europe, you&#039;re not dealing with predominantly student run legal reviews either. You&#039;re dealing with law journals run by academics. 

All that aside, I don&#039;t see how your point adds or detracts anything from my main point that citing the HLR as proof for Mr. President&#039;s intelligence is wrongheaded when you can just point at his entire academic record. He&#039;s a smart man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most prestigious in the planet? Maybe one of the legal journals on the planet but even then it&#8217;s not going to be better at English law than England. It&#8217;s one of the top legal reviews in the United States and is right up there with Yale.</p>
<p>And even then, once you leave the US and head to Europe, you&#8217;re not dealing with predominantly student run legal reviews either. You&#8217;re dealing with law journals run by academics. </p>
<p>All that aside, I don&#8217;t see how your point adds or detracts anything from my main point that citing the HLR as proof for Mr. President&#8217;s intelligence is wrongheaded when you can just point at his entire academic record. He&#8217;s a smart man.</p>
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		<title>By: dram</title>
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		<dc:creator>dram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying the Harvard Law Review is just a cute little ol&#039; student rag, is the equivalent of saying that the Olympics is entirely amateur, so it doesn&#039;t matter.  If Olympic atheletes were halfway decent they would be professionals.  Right?

Wrong.  

You are obviously not a lawyer, since any lawyer knows that the Harvard Law Review is the most prestigious legal journal on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying the Harvard Law Review is just a cute little ol&#8217; student rag, is the equivalent of saying that the Olympics is entirely amateur, so it doesn&#8217;t matter.  If Olympic atheletes were halfway decent they would be professionals.  Right?</p>
<p>Wrong.  </p>
<p>You are obviously not a lawyer, since any lawyer knows that the Harvard Law Review is the most prestigious legal journal on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Rey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason for the whole post is answering the second point. It&#039;s a student run organization at Harvard Law.

As to the first point: It doesn&#039;t matter if it&#039;s the most prestigious thing you can do as a Harvard Law student. The question was in regards to using it to prove the &lt;strong&gt;intelligence of Obama&lt;/strong&gt;. I say it&#039;s better to use his track record as a professor than to say he was elected to the head of a student run organization (no matter how prestigious).

Probably need some stats to support your penultimate bit there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason for the whole post is answering the second point. It&#8217;s a student run organization at Harvard Law.</p>
<p>As to the first point: It doesn&#8217;t matter if it&#8217;s the most prestigious thing you can do as a Harvard Law student. The question was in regards to using it to prove the <strong>intelligence of Obama</strong>. I say it&#8217;s better to use his track record as a professor than to say he was elected to the head of a student run organization (no matter how prestigious).</p>
<p>Probably need some stats to support your penultimate bit there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm. You&#039;re missing two things here. First, serving on law review is the most prestigious thing you can do in law school. It demonstrates commitment and intelligence. Second, being elected president of the Harvard Law Review is incredibly competitive and difficult. People who are elected president of the Harvard Law Review invariably go on to clerk for the Supreme Court and pretty much can do whatever they want. Hence, a little different than being president of your high school band. And, the blogger here obviously doesn&#039;t understand the rigor and intensity involved in both getting on to law review and serving in that capacity as president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm. You&#8217;re missing two things here. First, serving on law review is the most prestigious thing you can do in law school. It demonstrates commitment and intelligence. Second, being elected president of the Harvard Law Review is incredibly competitive and difficult. People who are elected president of the Harvard Law Review invariably go on to clerk for the Supreme Court and pretty much can do whatever they want. Hence, a little different than being president of your high school band. And, the blogger here obviously doesn&#8217;t understand the rigor and intensity involved in both getting on to law review and serving in that capacity as president.</p>
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		<title>By: Rey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you were smart and a community organizer then we&#039;d be having a whole different conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you were smart and a community organizer then we&#8217;d be having a whole different conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: MCF</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 16:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a time when three art majors formed a society and declared themselves Co-Presidents. I&#039;m pretty sure that wouldn&#039;t qualify any of THEM to run this country. (Well, maybe that one Dominican guy...;))

I was president of my high school band, too. That and a nickel would get me five cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a time when three art majors formed a society and declared themselves Co-Presidents. I&#8217;m pretty sure that wouldn&#8217;t qualify any of THEM to run this country. (Well, maybe that one Dominican guy&#8230;;))</p>
<p>I was president of my high school band, too. That and a nickel would get me five cents.</p>
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