Comments on: My Swing Vote http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/ ...writing about work, life, and what-not Sat, 18 Feb 2012 01:38:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Darrell http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-24488 Darrell Sat, 28 Jun 2008 09:11:14 +0000 http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/#comment-24488 All true, Rey. And, besides, the number of abortions performed in cases of incest, rape and threat to the mother's health is a TINY fraction of the whole. People always bring up cases of rape, incest and/or threat to the mother's health ... and I'm open to the point of view that those cases are valid reasons to consider abortion ... but the fact is, the vast majority of abortions are performed because the baby was conceived by people who want to eliminate the baby they've conceived as a matter of convenience. Saying abortion should be legal because of rape, incest and/or threat to the mother's health is like saying that killing people with handguns should be legal because of the instances where someone had no choice but to use a handgun to defend themselves and their family from attackers. All true, Rey.

And, besides, the number of abortions performed in cases of incest, rape and threat to the mother’s health is a TINY fraction of the whole. People always bring up cases of rape, incest and/or threat to the mother’s health … and I’m open to the point of view that those cases are valid reasons to consider abortion … but the fact is, the vast majority of abortions are performed because the baby was conceived by people who want to eliminate the baby they’ve conceived as a matter of convenience.

Saying abortion should be legal because of rape, incest and/or threat to the mother’s health is like saying that killing people with handguns should be legal because of the instances where someone had no choice but to use a handgun to defend themselves and their family from attackers.

]]> By: Rey http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-24484 Rey Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:09:20 +0000 http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/#comment-24484 Let me switch the illustration: Hitler's Germany is Evil and invades the US US is intermingled and therefore Hawaii becomes owned by a German invaded country. US nukes Hawaii. Doesn't make sense with abortion either: Person X does horrendous wrong to Person Y Person Y gets pregnant with Person Z Therefore Person Y gets to kill Person Z. Do you see the problem? The solution is not to attack and destroy the innocent third party no matter how they're the progeny of X individual. The solution is Something Else: be it adoption, raising the child to abhor rape, raising the child via the family--something that is not murder. Let me switch the illustration:

Hitler’s Germany is Evil and invades the US
US is intermingled and therefore Hawaii becomes owned by a German invaded country.
US nukes Hawaii.

Doesn’t make sense with abortion either:

Person X does horrendous wrong to Person Y
Person Y gets pregnant with Person Z
Therefore Person Y gets to kill Person Z.

Do you see the problem? The solution is not to attack and destroy the innocent third party no matter how they’re the progeny of X individual. The solution is Something Else: be it adoption, raising the child to abhor rape, raising the child via the family–something that is not murder.

]]> By: b13 http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-24483 b13 Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:02:37 +0000 http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/#comment-24483 I was talking about this in a forum the other day... and although I don't approve of abortion I wonder what your thoughts are if your loved one were raped and then told by the government that the baby must be brought to term. I believe a woman should always have the right to make a choice. I was talking about this in a forum the other day… and although I don’t approve of abortion I wonder what your thoughts are if your loved one were raped and then told by the government that the baby must be brought to term. I believe a woman should always have the right to make a choice.

]]> By: Darrell http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-24475 Darrell Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:19:06 +0000 http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/#comment-24475 Well, you have now. Thanks for the prayers, they're appreciated. Well, you have now. Thanks for the prayers, they’re appreciated.

]]> By: Rey http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-24472 Rey Thu, 26 Jun 2008 03:19:30 +0000 http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/#comment-24472 Yeah I don't know what I would've done with Rudy on there and I'm completely with you on looking back two centuries from now (I hope, I so hope that it doesn't get worst) and that we shake our heads in horror. Theologica's been fun with the discussions. Some folk are a bit too convinced of always being right (coff*me*coff) but other than that, not too shabby. Dude, did I ever welcome you back and tell you that I've prayed for you guys? Yeah I don’t know what I would’ve done with Rudy on there and I’m completely with you on looking back two centuries from now (I hope, I so hope that it doesn’t get worst) and that we shake our heads in horror.

Theologica’s been fun with the discussions. Some folk are a bit too convinced of always being right (coff*me*coff) but other than that, not too shabby.

Dude, did I ever welcome you back and tell you that I’ve prayed for you guys?

]]> By: Darrell http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-24471 Darrell Thu, 26 Jun 2008 00:28:25 +0000 http://rreynoso.com/blog/sweet-nothings/my-swing-vote/#comment-24471 I'm to the right of you on most of the issues you named. I'm left-leaning on the issues of immigration and the death penalty. But abortion is the litmus-test for me, too. I absolutely REFUSE to vote for a candidate who favors abortion on demand. If Rudy had been the GOP's guy this election I'd not be voting for PotUS this November. I'm convinced that the abortion issue is to this age what the slavery issue was two hundred years ago. Some day people will look back and shake their heads with disgust that our society could justify the taking of human life in the name of convenience. I need to check Theologica more often, by the way. I joined, left a couple of comments, and then promptly forgot all about it. I’m to the right of you on most of the issues you named. I’m left-leaning on the issues of immigration and the death penalty. But abortion is the litmus-test for me, too. I absolutely REFUSE to vote for a candidate who favors abortion on demand. If Rudy had been the GOP’s guy this election I’d not be voting for PotUS this November.

I’m convinced that the abortion issue is to this age what the slavery issue was two hundred years ago. Some day people will look back and shake their heads with disgust that our society could justify the taking of human life in the name of convenience.

I need to check Theologica more often, by the way. I joined, left a couple of comments, and then promptly forgot all about it.

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